13:32 31Oct13 Jay Axtell -
Excellent, Dr. Juster! Would that all our churches and
congregations heed this advice.
13:40 31Oct13 Gilbert Sommerfeld -
For years this false teaching has irritated me. Where is the
judgement? Where is the accountability? As if that anointing
superseded every moral responsibility! Wasnt Solomon the one who
observed that a good name was better than precious ointment
(anointing)? Dead flies cause the the ointment of the apothecary
to send forth a stinking savour. These "untouchables" because of
their anointing stink! Thank you for your excellent admonition on
-- Dr Juster replies: I share your concerns so very much.
14:43 31Oct13 Paul -
Refreshing to see in print and reinforced publicly ... Yes, from
early on Yah says to Abraham and Moshe ... One Law for all ...
Stranger and Hebrew ... We see Yah asks Abraham shall He not
reveal what He is going to do in Sodom and Amora. Im encouraged
to pass this article along to anyone who wants to hear from
Yeshua The Messiah'
-- Dr Juster replies: Yes. Leaders are not above the law.
16:29 31Oct13 SC -
Hallelujah! Some truth boldly stated in the midst of the
nonsense many in church leadership have purported over the years. It is my understanding that all who have Christ have the
Anointing abiding within and we should not touch that in a wrong
way, leadership should all the more be like Jesus, a servant.
16:31 31Oct13 MM -
What you are describing does not sound unfamiliar. If you are
suspecting the leader of your congregation to be the dictator you
are describing above with a leadership that is not functioning
independently (their selection has been strongly influenced by
the leader, people are normally flattered by his persona and
being favoured - he is a charismatic personality), then what does
one do other than to quietly leave the community? As with a cult,
most people are blind to the fact (the ones that have realized
something is wrong, have all left or are in the process of doing
so). People that stand up are normally made out to be the
villains and the true facts and what happens behind the scenes
remains unrevealed, only when you land up in the situation
yourself do you actually see things for what they are but then
find yourself standing alone.
-- Dr Juster replies: This is so, so true. I would not join a congregation without
real ckecks and balances and accountability for leaders with an
16:35 31Oct13 Rittie -
Very good! I agree entirely. Absolute power does indeed corrupt
and damage, absolutely.
17:32 31Oct13 Pelham -
Encouraging truth so critical to kingdom community building.
19:44 31Oct13 Henry -
I Samuel 26:9-11 is talking about taking someone's life.
This is murder since the intent to kill is embedded in the
Scripture. No one is justified to take another's life. One
of the cardinal principle of God's 10 commandments is that
life is sacred.
I agree that this scripture has nothing to do with allowing a
dominant leader to have his way with the congregation. I believe
that 1 Peter 3 says that a good shepherd is to lay down his life
for the flock. That means that he must be a humble and
accountable servant. Yeshua said that the leadership should not
rule over the flock like proud and arrogant gentile kings do.
Thanks for your article. I have seen this behavior in a cult that
I was associated with in the past. This congregation has split
into many subgoups and the unity between brothers has been
02:14 01Nov13 Suzanne Bell -
Amen! Thank you for having the courage to speak out on this
issue - this doctrine has always troubled me as it is so open to
abuse by fallen humanity, in other words all of us!
04:21 01Nov13 Eliette Heritier -
At last! Thank you so much! It is so liberating! "Judge not" we
are told and yet we will judge angels???!!! Thank you again! Be
blessed for such good teachings!
08:06 01Nov13 Jill Allerton -
This was really eye opening and confirmed what I really know to
be true. We all need to come under authority, but it can be
misused and people can really be controlled. I think people can
come to believe they are offending G-d if they don't submit
and can bring up the wrong kind of fear. Thank you for these
words of wisdom.
09:25 01Nov13 Matthew -
Thank you for your wise and humble leadership. May the body of
Messiah have this type of leadership and may it reflect itself
into the civil government.
10:09 01Nov13 Horst Kalupner -
This is a very needy teaching for some Christian communities,
thank you! But will it help in protestant churches without
baptism (in water) and baptism in the holy ghost?
-- Dr Juster replies: I think it helps all churches, but historic churches have more
structures of accountability (e.g. Presbyterian).
10:10 01Nov13 Susan St.Clair -
Thank you for such a balanced teaching. This one has been in
need of correction for a long time as many years ago I came out
of a church with this form of doctrine.
19:05 01Nov13 Albert Johnson -
Excellent Article. Because of a lack of accountability and
humility in the Christian Church, it has become prideful,
self-absorbed, judgmental, and uncompassionate. That is in part,
why I have left the Christian Church and am currently enjoying
Studies in the Torah and Jewish Worship Services.
-- Dr Juster replies: To be fair, I must caution that there are synagogues that have
the same problem and there are very solid and balanced churches,
but sometimes and in some areas, they are hard to find.
23:02 01Nov13 DT -
Not too long ago I was involved both in a church and an aliyah
ministry that held this doctrine. I eventually left both of them
quietly as described above, losing nearly every Christian
relationship I had ... The questions is, is there nothing that
can be done except to leave quietly and try to start over? Not
only did these events bring an end to relationships within my
home church, but also to relationships in various other churches
in the body of Christ at large. I've received these
circumstances as from the Lord, but I still hope that there will
be reconciliation (especially of offenses) before the final Day.
-- Dr Juster replies: I would say ask God to lead you to a congregation with good
government and justice. Then come and visit us in Israel. We
will pray for you and you can at least connect with us.
13:13 02Nov13 Shannon -
Thank you for this article - the truth is freeing. May the Lord
continue to bring us into the fullness of revelation of Himself
by the Holy Spirit.
17:08 02Nov13 Amanda Hattingh -
Amen! If only pastors and leaders of congregation realize that
they are also servants of the Almighty. That they are accountable
to the Almighty, as well as to the body of Messiah.
06:35 04Nov13 Prime Lina -
Awesome revelation and eye opener
09:49 04Nov13 Marie -
Thanks for the enlightening on this subject.
04:31 06Nov13 CC -
Thank you for someone standing up and telling the truth. For
years these pastors have used this to badger people to put
themselves on a pedestal by saying they are Gods anointed. I
have the Holy Spirit and I am anointed also. Jesus said to call
each other "brother" because we are all the same no one is better
than the other. We are to knowledgeable about the work of God and
that is where people cannot stretch the truth and deceive
-- Dr Juster replies: I do not think that most pastors do this, but those who do teach
a dangerous doctrine; that they are beyond correction.
04:50 06Nov13 Robin Munn -
I have never come across this interpretation before; perhaps
I've been fortunate enough to attend churches with a better
view of Scripture than that. Besides the reasons you mention in
the article, there's also the fact that it contradicts what
Paul instructs Timothy in 1 Timothy 5:19: "Do not admit a charge
against an elder except on the evidence of two or three
witnesses." While a single person's complaint may be
motivated by something other than the truth, if two or three
people are bringing the same complaint, then there's
probably something to it -- which is why Paul wrote that. (A note
of caution, though: I would probably count a couple, or a family,
as a single witness in such a scenario -- because if Dad comes
home and says "Pastor Smith did thus-and-such", Mom and the kids
are likely to believe him even if they haven't seen it for
themselves.) So if a single person (or family) brings an
accusation, be cautious -- but if two or three people are
bringing the same accusation, the New Testament is quite clear
that the accusation should be listened to.
I raise this caution because I've actually encountered,
recently, people making accusations against people in church
leadership positions -- accusations that, when examined, turned
out to be unsupported. So there are problems to be avoided in
-- Dr Juster replies: An excellent and well-framed comment - I wholly agree.
16:16 06Nov13 Donna Diorio -
I really appreciate this article of correction, Dr. Dan. The
royal model is too widespread and I have been in many
congregations where this was believed to be solid gold theology.
04:22 18Nov13 Undisclosed -
You wrote, "Within his sphere he is the final authority or
dictator. If he abuses people or they do not like his decisions,
they have two choices. They can remain under his leadership and
trust the situation to God or they can quietly leave the
community. In any case, they are to make no waves or protest in
their leaving." And in your "Models of Accountability" brochure
you wrote on page 17, that the Unaccountable Authority model
"usually leads to secretiveness in handling funds,
decision-making, etc ... Authoritarian models are based on
insecurity. Countless lives have been wounded from such abuse.
Without due process, people can be disfellowshipped, drummed out
of community and ostracized, with no justice and due process."
I testify that this is true, and warn the readers to take this
teaching by Dr. Juster seriously. Indeed it stems from the
insecurity of the leader, hurts inadequately dealt with that bear
fruit to destruction within the leader's family and
throughout his community of followers. A leader who is operating
as Juster describes ultimately demands his followers to trust him
to their thinking for them; submit in silence or invisibly leave,
it is a binary choice.
09:35 28Nov13 B -
Thank you for this article! It seems that nearly everyone
who's been in the American church for the last 20 years has
seen this on a personal level. It's heart breaking! I
appreciate this information - it is well balanced and truthful.
God help us to have the humility to put it into practice.
-- Dr Juster replies: It is so very sad sometimes. Yes, hopefully we will see
congregations governed in a different manner.
14:56 08Dec13 FJ -
This is article is profound. I read it, re-read it, and will read
it again. I have grown up with this wrongful doctrine all of my
life in the church, always knowing and feeling that it was wrong.
It carries horrible stigmas and introduces the idea that an
earthly man or woman can never be wrong nor do they need the help
of any other man or woman. Now, I am a grown woman and see that
this wrong doctrine is pervasive throughout the church in
America. This hurtful doctrine has pushed away many well-meaning
disciples of Jesus who gently come with correction and are
immediately cast down from other church goers. Most often the
correction never reaches the actual pastor/apostle because it is
shot down in the pews. So many of the church goers believe in
this wrongful doctrine because they have been taught that if they
speak against the "anointed" one that they are completely wrong
and deserving of excommunication. I pray that we could all come
into the communion of the Holy Spirit to see that
discipline/correction is GOD'S loving way. It has always
been HIS way and it will remain HIS way. And that HE typically
uses other men/women to deliver that correction.